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		<title>By: Manou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ciao all of you for a while.
A trip in perspective. Will follow Dan&#039;s advice and eat strawberries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ciao all of you for a while.<br />
A trip in perspective. Will follow Dan&#8217;s advice and eat strawberries</p>
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		<title>By: Manou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena, this is for you especially:
http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lena, this is for you especially:<br />
<a href="http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manou</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delighted Lena to read you. In front of this well of erudition named Dan, I was a little bit lost alone and obliged to effectuate searches and searches..even Peggy and RPMcMurphy did not intervene to my great despair. I have been unable to convince Dan that the Creator exists. Who knows? perhaps one day he will.

No doubt that Darwin was a great scientist who has brought science a step further. But as with any discipline worthy of continued research,there have been many scientific discoveries in multiple fields of study (physics, archeology, cosmology, biology, chemistry, anthropology, zoology, geology etc)in the 150 years since Darwin published his book, and it seems now that &quot;random mutation&quot; and &quot;natural selection&quot; only can&#039;t account for the 
complexities of life. Fossil evidence of the “Cambrian Explosion,” which supports a “Biological Big Bang” (not a gradual evolutionary process across species), the discovery of &quot;Big Bang ripples&quot; by NASA&#039;s Cosmic Background 
Explorer satellite, clearly indicate a Creator must exist and the universe had a beginning.

Universities in the whole world are doing researches: Here I mention Georgia and Caltech among others
Henry F. Schaefer, director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the University of Georgia, a five -time nominee for the Nobel Prize in chemistry, believes, that &quot;God created the heavens and the earth.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted Lena to read you. In front of this well of erudition named Dan, I was a little bit lost alone and obliged to effectuate searches and searches..even Peggy and RPMcMurphy did not intervene to my great despair. I have been unable to convince Dan that the Creator exists. Who knows? perhaps one day he will.</p>
<p>No doubt that Darwin was a great scientist who has brought science a step further. But as with any discipline worthy of continued research,there have been many scientific discoveries in multiple fields of study (physics, archeology, cosmology, biology, chemistry, anthropology, zoology, geology etc)in the 150 years since Darwin published his book, and it seems now that &#8220;random mutation&#8221; and &#8220;natural selection&#8221; only can&#8217;t account for the<br />
complexities of life. Fossil evidence of the “Cambrian Explosion,” which supports a “Biological Big Bang” (not a gradual evolutionary process across species), the discovery of &#8220;Big Bang ripples&#8221; by NASA&#8217;s Cosmic Background<br />
Explorer satellite, clearly indicate a Creator must exist and the universe had a beginning.</p>
<p>Universities in the whole world are doing researches: Here I mention Georgia and Caltech among others<br />
Henry F. Schaefer, director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the University of Georgia, a five -time nominee for the Nobel Prize in chemistry, believes, that &#8220;God created the heavens and the earth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manou:   I have been following the conversation between you and Dan .  That&#039;s what happens with email.  It&#039;s out there where anyone can read it.  And that&#039;s not bad.  We all need to know and undestand eachother better.

There is another concept that I would like your comment on.  I&#039;m asking you because your world is  far different than mine I&#039;m sure.  What is your view of Evolution ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manou:   I have been following the conversation between you and Dan .  That&#8217;s what happens with email.  It&#8217;s out there where anyone can read it.  And that&#8217;s not bad.  We all need to know and undestand eachother better.</p>
<p>There is another concept that I would like your comment on.  I&#8217;m asking you because your world is  far different than mine I&#8217;m sure.  What is your view of Evolution ?</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy that you are at peace with your concept of God.

Others continue to feel that they must enforce their own concept of God on their neighbors with bombs and guns. I continue to simply not understand why anyone needs to believe in something called, &quot;God&quot; but if you do, that&#039;s your business. We can at least agree that killing is not a solution for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy that you are at peace with your concept of God.</p>
<p>Others continue to feel that they must enforce their own concept of God on their neighbors with bombs and guns. I continue to simply not understand why anyone needs to believe in something called, &#8220;God&#8221; but if you do, that&#8217;s your business. We can at least agree that killing is not a solution for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Manou</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-798</link>
		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe “scientists are nearer to God” and maybe they are further away. I do not know&quot;. They are surely nearer: The first word sent to prophet Mohamed was: Read.

&quot;Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.&quot; As an agnostic, Einstein confess the ignorance of human beings about abstract religious concepts.

Why talking about his God or your God or my God.. God being One, everywhere, very close to everybody, is simply Our God.  Ignorance, misinterpretations or political tendencies have created the differences when His oral messages were transmitted to further generations.

&quot;Yes, there are three different versions of the Ten Commandments in the Bible. And the version from the Koran has to be collected from many places&quot;.
First I haven&#039;t said that the 10 commandments I mentioned before were from the Koran (my mother was protestant before converting to Islam). It&#039;s my version.. and I think there are no contradictions with Islamic principles.
Second, Koran is God&#039;s words and has not been &quot;collected&quot; from many places. Evidently, the Source being the same, there are similarities in the subjects that have survived ageing without distortion.

Men hav&#039;nt invented anything, they have only discovered things already created by God. Now, with the quantum computing we will be able to transmit data via only a beam of light over huge distances. Universe is perpetually expanding and contracting in an infinite loop and  the complex chain of cause and effect is only understood in part. Will men one day discover what is Soul? Perhaps this Soul is the answer to your &quot;I don’t understand how God is helping anyone decide&quot; 

&quot;And everybody has killed Jews at one time or another&quot; What about the historical context? Whatever the reasons, I agree that killing is not a solution. Killing is the solution of the weak who don&#039;t see that perhaps,there is another solution. Our future is Our creation, you and me and the others. Let&#039;s built together bridges not walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe “scientists are nearer to God” and maybe they are further away. I do not know&#8221;. They are surely nearer: The first word sent to prophet Mohamed was: Read.</p>
<p>&#8220;Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.&#8221; As an agnostic, Einstein confess the ignorance of human beings about abstract religious concepts.</p>
<p>Why talking about his God or your God or my God.. God being One, everywhere, very close to everybody, is simply Our God.  Ignorance, misinterpretations or political tendencies have created the differences when His oral messages were transmitted to further generations.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, there are three different versions of the Ten Commandments in the Bible. And the version from the Koran has to be collected from many places&#8221;.<br />
First I haven&#8217;t said that the 10 commandments I mentioned before were from the Koran (my mother was protestant before converting to Islam). It&#8217;s my version.. and I think there are no contradictions with Islamic principles.<br />
Second, Koran is God&#8217;s words and has not been &#8220;collected&#8221; from many places. Evidently, the Source being the same, there are similarities in the subjects that have survived ageing without distortion.</p>
<p>Men hav&#8217;nt invented anything, they have only discovered things already created by God. Now, with the quantum computing we will be able to transmit data via only a beam of light over huge distances. Universe is perpetually expanding and contracting in an infinite loop and  the complex chain of cause and effect is only understood in part. Will men one day discover what is Soul? Perhaps this Soul is the answer to your &#8220;I don’t understand how God is helping anyone decide&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;And everybody has killed Jews at one time or another&#8221; What about the historical context? Whatever the reasons, I agree that killing is not a solution. Killing is the solution of the weak who don&#8217;t see that perhaps,there is another solution. Our future is Our creation, you and me and the others. Let&#8217;s built together bridges not walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mabbutt</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Mabbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe &quot;scientists are nearer to God&quot; and maybe they are further away. I do not know. 

Einstein certainly did not want to believe in the role of probability in physics, but as for God ... ? I&#039;m not sure he thought about it as much as he thought about physics. (He did think about Zionism. He could have been the first leader of the new state of Israel if he had wanted the job. But he turned it down.) Einstein said he believed in &quot;the God of Spinoza&quot;. If you read Spinoza, you will discover that his God was a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; different God from your God.

Yes, there are three different versions of the Ten Commandments in the Bible. And the version from the Koran has to be collected from many places. Many who read and search do not approach the conviction that God really exists. Many others approach different convictions about the true nature of God. I don&#039;t understand how God is helping anyone decide. It seems to me that the opposite is happening.

You are very correct that &quot;God has sent plenty of messages to every people in our world.&quot; The problem is that these messages are not the same. As a result, Shi&#039;a believe the Sunni are heretics. The Catholics persecute the Protestants. And everybody has killed Jews at one time or another. It seems to me that God&#039;s messages are not helping us live together in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe &#8220;scientists are nearer to God&#8221; and maybe they are further away. I do not know. </p>
<p>Einstein certainly did not want to believe in the role of probability in physics, but as for God &#8230; ? I&#8217;m not sure he thought about it as much as he thought about physics. (He did think about Zionism. He could have been the first leader of the new state of Israel if he had wanted the job. But he turned it down.) Einstein said he believed in &#8220;the God of Spinoza&#8221;. If you read Spinoza, you will discover that his God was a <i>very</i> different God from your God.</p>
<p>Yes, there are three different versions of the Ten Commandments in the Bible. And the version from the Koran has to be collected from many places. Many who read and search do not approach the conviction that God really exists. Many others approach different convictions about the true nature of God. I don&#8217;t understand how God is helping anyone decide. It seems to me that the opposite is happening.</p>
<p>You are very correct that &#8220;God has sent plenty of messages to every people in our world.&#8221; The problem is that these messages are not the same. As a result, Shi&#8217;a believe the Sunni are heretics. The Catholics persecute the Protestants. And everybody has killed Jews at one time or another. It seems to me that God&#8217;s messages are not helping us live together in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Manou</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky Dan, I am really impressed and I wish I have your knowledge as scientists are nearer to God. I didn&#039;t know that the ten Commandments arrive to us in three versions. Are they so different? For me, simply, they are:
 
1. You shall not worship any other god but God 2. You shall not make a graven image (and You shall love your neighbor as yourself). 3. You shall not take the name of God in vain.4. You shall take one day out of seven to 
recuperate and rest 5. Honor your father and your mother.6. You shall not murder.7. You shall not commit adultery 8. You shall not steal.9. You shall not commit perjury. 10. You shall not covet.

You said:&quot;Who is to decide? And do not say, “God” because everyone believes that God is on their side too&quot;. Here,there is no choice. It&#039;s certainly God. God has sent plenty of messages to every people in our world, the more recent ones correcting the deviations deforming the ancient ones. He has given  the human kind a brain, a way to think,to decide. And finally, it&#039;s God who will decide if our decisions were right or wrong. 

Heracletus was an unbeliever philosopher:&quot;The universal cosmic process was not created by any god or man.&quot;How can he compares a man with God. His view was direct opposite of Einstein&#039;s.The more we read and search the more we approach the conviction that God really exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky Dan, I am really impressed and I wish I have your knowledge as scientists are nearer to God. I didn&#8217;t know that the ten Commandments arrive to us in three versions. Are they so different? For me, simply, they are:</p>
<p>1. You shall not worship any other god but God 2. You shall not make a graven image (and You shall love your neighbor as yourself). 3. You shall not take the name of God in vain.4. You shall take one day out of seven to<br />
recuperate and rest 5. Honor your father and your mother.6. You shall not murder.7. You shall not commit adultery 8. You shall not steal.9. You shall not commit perjury. 10. You shall not covet.</p>
<p>You said:&#8221;Who is to decide? And do not say, “God” because everyone believes that God is on their side too&#8221;. Here,there is no choice. It&#8217;s certainly God. God has sent plenty of messages to every people in our world, the more recent ones correcting the deviations deforming the ancient ones. He has given  the human kind a brain, a way to think,to decide. And finally, it&#8217;s God who will decide if our decisions were right or wrong. </p>
<p>Heracletus was an unbeliever philosopher:&#8221;The universal cosmic process was not created by any god or man.&#8221;How can he compares a man with God. His view was direct opposite of Einstein&#8217;s.The more we read and search the more we approach the conviction that God really exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mabbutt</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Mabbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion ... politics ... it&#039;s all the same to me.

So ... regarding your first &#039;religion&#039; message ...

I asked you, &quot;Who is to decide?&quot; But you did not answer. Instead, you gave me more rules. This time, you said, &quot;The Ten Commandments&quot; were the rules we should follow. Do you mean the version in Exodus 20:2–17, Deuteronomy 5:6–21, or Exodus 34:11–27? OH, I know! You mean the selection of verses scattered throughout the Koran. But how are we to know which are the &quot;ten&quot; in the Koran? You also expressed admiration for Zen Buddhism. But these people do not revere the Ten Commandments. And how about the people who worship Hindu gods? They are not even monotheistic.

Again, I ask, &quot;Who is to decide?&quot;

As for me, I have more regard for the philosophy of Heraclitus of Ephesus, &quot;Everything is change.&quot;

Regarding Jefferson. I like to look beyond the individual to the circumstances of his life. Since Jefferson was personally in debt to bankers to pay for his life style as a country gentleman, it is natural that he disliked them. But because &quot;everything is change,&quot; we should consider the circumstances of our own lives more carefully than the circumstances of one who lived so long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion &#8230; politics &#8230; it&#8217;s all the same to me.</p>
<p>So &#8230; regarding your first &#8216;religion&#8217; message &#8230;</p>
<p>I asked you, &#8220;Who is to decide?&#8221; But you did not answer. Instead, you gave me more rules. This time, you said, &#8220;The Ten Commandments&#8221; were the rules we should follow. Do you mean the version in Exodus 20:2–17, Deuteronomy 5:6–21, or Exodus 34:11–27? OH, I know! You mean the selection of verses scattered throughout the Koran. But how are we to know which are the &#8220;ten&#8221; in the Koran? You also expressed admiration for Zen Buddhism. But these people do not revere the Ten Commandments. And how about the people who worship Hindu gods? They are not even monotheistic.</p>
<p>Again, I ask, &#8220;Who is to decide?&#8221;</p>
<p>As for me, I have more regard for the philosophy of Heraclitus of Ephesus, &#8220;Everything is change.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regarding Jefferson. I like to look beyond the individual to the circumstances of his life. Since Jefferson was personally in debt to bankers to pay for his life style as a country gentleman, it is natural that he disliked them. But because &#8220;everything is change,&#8221; we should consider the circumstances of our own lives more carefully than the circumstances of one who lived so long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Manou</title>
		<link>http://colorcomments.com/2009/01/27/colorcomments-breaks-with-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Returning to Obama and the USA as it seems that the theme of religion is not so interesting...

&quot;I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale&quot;. Jefferson, Thomas - 1743-1826 Third President of the USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Returning to Obama and the USA as it seems that the theme of religion is not so interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale&#8221;. Jefferson, Thomas &#8211; 1743-1826 Third President of the USA</p>
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